Opening buffs

Has anyone figured out how the opening buffs work. I am trying to do them in a specific order.

Back to Front, Left to Right

So if I wanted to do say like mutant - golem - hellcat - golem - mutant. Where hellcat then the golems buffed; I would have to do it in the V formation ?

Yes

Thats the only way to get the triple chain proc at the moment other than the '^' formation, but 'V' is clearly better

Ty

That's assuming that the buffs are cast in the order that they are shown instead of simultaneously. I haven't seen anything in the packets that show buffs unlike combat logs so it's very possible that a buff may not affect another buff. However, this would be a good chance for someone to test the theory.

Omg 5 battles in a row both my golems proc but not my hellcat. What are the odds of that. RNG wtf man. lol

Holy shit 9 battles now same thing and about 5 of those stopping power proc.

Are you battling mobs to test it?

I know for a fact it worked last tower event. I ran: Mutant - Primarch - Hellcat - Golem - Rig in the 'V' against bosses

The WIS buff boosted the ATK buff and the damage was insane

Tested and proved. Hellcat before golem buff. Allows my golem to do more dmg

I had to change my formation and add some lowbie fams in order for the buffs to change up..... so weird.

Then just out of curious I changed back to the one I was doing and another 3 battles both golems proc and not hellcat. WTF so confused.

-Zzz wrote:

Are you battling mobs to test it?

I know for a fact it worked last tower event. I ran: Mutant - Primarch - Hellcat - Golem - Rig in the 'V' against bosses

The WIS buff boosted the ATK buff and the damage was insane

Yes I was testing for fun. It gave me something to do.

I want 2x Golem

And something to do

hehe and both of mine are 200c pe ones.

I think lots of players have surpassed my Raid damage output since last event. Im gonna need some good luck with event savs

I wonder what OKRed's damage is. I just did 2.5 mil to a 2nd form banshee. I'm not sure the event fams are worth leveling because I don't know if the skill is good to use.

someone said the savage uses both side allies to attack?

valorsoul wrote:

someone said the savage uses both side allies to attack?

You get the girl one for completing zone 5 and yes both sides attack with her.

I can do 2.9 mil damage if lordeo mutant ,golem,big rig, lacerto proc at the beginning

Speaking of opening buffs: just pulled a Junker War Marshall v2 from a Frozen Heroes (paid) pack. First character with a 70% max chance to proc at the begining. With a 100% wis modifier, I'm extremely interested to see what -9k attack and defense does to teams... Even an un-buffed samurai might be able to 1-shot teams with a huge def debuff like that.

I have a feeling this character is OP waiting to happen, and will be more useful than Ls like Shimma or Wild Child, hehe.

nice i want to get one of them

Wait a second... the junker has a 75% buff rate?

70% chance. http://fatalfrontier.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Demoralizer (and yes, that is correct, I pulled the data from the json spreadsheet and added the wiki entry myself)

Hey when you test it legend, does it over-write buffs? I noticed when PVeing if i buffed and hten they debuff, the debuff doesn't stack. What's the initiative?

If it's like BB, then the debuff sticks no matter what. However, the graphic only changes if the debuff is stronger than the buff (ie. the units attack is now less that it started with before any buffs). Since the buffers are generally more stacked with WIS than War MArshall, it wont show a debuff icon unless its a sub-par unit when both are cast.

ohhhh thanks for the explanation legend, that makes perfect sense

I actually have a extra junker v2 for trade if anyone interested

hrm, I wonder if they are going to move all the buffs up to 70%.

buffs are already op ^

And a debuff taking def and attack down by 100% wis is not?

Karthunk wrote:

And a debuff taking def and attack down by 100% wis is not?

That combine with mordog buff = GG

buffs=debuffs=op in my above statement, Karth

Ive seen a few Junker v2 but no v1. I want an OPE

Lol, a level 30 Crone hit by my level 23 War Marshall's debuff (on All-Out) does 0 damage to my team. A level 40 Shrew hit with the debuff on a standard attack does 4 damage. Can't wait to try this guy out in pvp.

your warmarshall's debuff sounds OP hahahaha

Legend, are you noticing a drastic increase in your fams damage?

No, barely anything worth noticing yet damage-wise against raid bosses. Will do more extensive tests when i get him to level 99 and actually keep notes.

legendslayer wrote:

No, barely anything worth noticing yet damage-wise against raid bosses. Will do more extensive tests when i get him to level 99 and actually keep notes.

lol i am leveling mines too! It is funny when the Boss does 0 dmg even xD

lol on my noob tablet account i have a lvl 30ish fug bug sucker and his skill is Stupify (lower WIS of target)...when that lands, if the boss uses Ultimate Force it his my whole team for a total of 0 dmg...

the lvl 40 + 50 crones that use ultimate force wipe out my non savages in my party in one hit if i'm not doing all out attack

Does anyone know the modifier for Bulletproof and Foresight? I want to know for a pet build.

Makes you wonder why they didn't come out with the single stat debuffs in these better than the last v2 rare caps....

Cuz you know rereleasing skills is a cool and all!

Bare is curious to hear that answer Lanny but Bare wants to hear it in the terms of Mordeo and Hellcat as well as Tigrey and Big Head

It seems that everything is 100% atm.