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PostSubject: Best merc in Game   Best merc in Game EmptyNovember 30th 2013, 9:40 pm

i say HC or Fista (im still a firm believer in fista as long as it comes in 2s)
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PostSubject: Re: Best merc in Game   Best merc in Game EmptyNovember 30th 2013, 9:52 pm

So hard to choose...
The squad around said "best" merc is the difference maker, but with the right set up I would say Mindflayer or Mac. Hellcat would have been my first choice but her stats will make her too antiquated in the not so distant future. Obviously I'm biased towards pvp performance.
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PostSubject: Re: Best merc in Game   Best merc in Game EmptyNovember 30th 2013, 10:41 pm

I have no lethal experience, but if I had to pick I would say Golem. Granted I have no experience with him either, but I would have to go with him based on what I know. As a stand alone merc he has it all. In a one on one battle, I'm guessing only a commando has a chance? And at that point you have to figure in the whole epic vs lethal thing.
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PostSubject: Re: Best merc in Game   Best merc in Game EmptyDecember 1st 2013, 1:18 am

I forgot about Mac. He's pretty damn good. Mac-dbl gun-hc-dbl gun-mac diamond turtle all merc kill everything destroys anything its proc touches.
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PostSubject: Re: Best merc in Game   Best merc in Game EmptyDecember 1st 2013, 1:34 am

A double gun buffed by a hellcat will turn anything into a one shot killer
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PostSubject: Re: Best merc in Game   Best merc in Game EmptyDecember 1st 2013, 1:42 am

I have no personal experience with using Lethals (boohoo :-/) but I can confirm that Golem is freaking amazing and I think he's the best and I love him


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PostSubject: Re: Best merc in Game   Best merc in Game EmptyDecember 1st 2013, 7:28 am

The only Lethal I have experience with is an Odin ( which was pretty awesome in PvP, even though it wasn't buffed ). I'd like to rend a Daddy LongGuns one day since I'm a big fan of AGI mercs. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Best merc in Game   Best merc in Game EmptyDecember 1st 2013, 9:09 am

Post Agi/Wis nerf: Artemis, Bullthor, DoubleGun, MacRagged
Pre Agi/Wis nerf: Fista, Hellcat, Telepath

But one merc makes not a whole squad...event format (pvp raid or tower) preference must also be considered.
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PostSubject: Re: Best merc in Game   Best merc in Game EmptyDecember 1st 2013, 11:48 am

I love my Howitzer. Procs like crazy and is great for leveling. Add in a Golem buffed Titanfist, and you could have multiple procs on the first turn. Anxious to see how my revamped team does in pvp: Nox v2 - Howitzer v2 - Titan v2 - Golem - Titan v2.
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PostSubject: Re: Best merc in Game   Best merc in Game EmptyDecember 1st 2013, 11:51 am

Ya I won't fight that team even with my hc-mord combo those procs are too much
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PostSubject: Re: Best merc in Game   Best merc in Game EmptyDecember 1st 2013, 12:21 pm

Norskie, your line up is probably great when you're attacking but I haven't had any issues beating it on the attack. Pre-battle is good but not when you go second.


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PostSubject: Re: Best merc in Game   Best merc in Game EmptyDecember 1st 2013, 12:26 pm

^^ That's the same with mindflayer. This would make more of a difference if you lost points when you lost matches during pvp events (something I would LOVE to see happen). It would make mindflayer a mediocre merc.
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PostSubject: Re: Best merc in Game   Best merc in Game EmptyDecember 1st 2013, 12:35 pm

As long as points would be deducted for losing both when attacking and defending, then it would be easier for the community to accept.
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PostSubject: Re: Best merc in Game   Best merc in Game EmptyDecember 1st 2013, 3:27 pm

I really gotta go with Jackson Omega and I'm surprised nobody mentioned him yet. Post nerf he isn't quite as good obviously but he is still the most versatile merc I have. I can put him next to anything and that attack and agility buff will benefit it, even wisdom mercs since they will move faster and hit harder on auto attacks. I use him in every single event. Hell, him plus two tideslayers is all I need to farm level 10 of the tower. I usually level two mercs in the back row of the M formation while doing it. Jackson does it all.
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PostSubject: Re: Best merc in Game   Best merc in Game EmptyDecember 1st 2013, 5:50 pm

Marcus - Jackson - Hellcat - Jackson - Marcus
Imagine this shit, muahaha.

If I ever saw a team like this I'd swap it away as quickly as possible.
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PostSubject: Re: Best merc in Game   Best merc in Game EmptyDecember 1st 2013, 6:30 pm

hmmmm me like
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PostSubject: Re: Best merc in Game   Best merc in Game EmptyDecember 1st 2013, 6:43 pm

This would just rape your squad even with proc manipulation. Hellcat can nuke the team, if not she'll give such a nice boost to Jackson which will make the Marcus hit so much. And if nothing actually procs, but buffs, you'll still go first + do a ton of damage with auto attacks.
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PostSubject: Re: Best merc in Game   Best merc in Game EmptyDecember 1st 2013, 10:41 pm

I want to change my list...given current conditions favoring atk i think helio is prolly best atm...golem is god-tier e4...

I do agree with older Ls antiquating as new ones with higher stat limits get released
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PostSubject: Re: Best merc in Game   Best merc in Game EmptyDecember 1st 2013, 10:45 pm

^^^ My first thought was helio
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PostSubject: Re: Best merc in Game   Best merc in Game EmptyDecember 2nd 2013, 9:05 am

No one is going to mention Tideslayer? God tier agility, two dps skills, 35% AoE Agi skill proc rate, and an ATK based skill with a silence.
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PostSubject: Re: Best merc in Game   Best merc in Game EmptyDecember 2nd 2013, 9:49 am

Modifiers are too low for me. And for me 2 attack skills are only good thing if its full nuke or the agi is really high on the merc
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PostSubject: Re: Best merc in Game   Best merc in Game EmptyDecember 2nd 2013, 9:50 am

If siren maiden was dual action with one other small skill I would just say her
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PostSubject: Re: Best merc in Game   Best merc in Game EmptyDecember 2nd 2013, 12:11 pm

Siren maiden with a second skill is hellcat lol
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PostSubject: Re: Best merc in Game   Best merc in Game EmptyDecember 2nd 2013, 6:27 pm

I second the notion that Tideslayer is up there. I plan on running Fista - Tideslayer - Jackson - Tideslayer - Fista in the upcoming PVP event. Let me know how it goes for you guys. Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: Best merc in Game   Best merc in Game EmptyDecember 2nd 2013, 6:34 pm

Poorly is how its gonna go. I miss my tideslayer Sad
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PostSubject: Re: Best merc in Game   Best merc in Game EmptyDecember 2nd 2013, 7:08 pm

your tideslayer proc bill bounce like pebbles off my hc-mord combo. tide sucks due to mod
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PostSubject: Re: Best merc in Game   Best merc in Game EmptyDecember 2nd 2013, 9:04 pm

^I don't fight hellcats buffing anything but I'd take hellcat buffing a lot of things over a hellcat buffing a mord.
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PostSubject: Re: Best merc in Game   Best merc in Game EmptyDecember 2nd 2013, 9:22 pm

Hellcat used to be a better version of Siren because of the 400% Modifier and 100% WIS Buff, now it's more like a Ulfr of the Lion with the buff. Very Happy Siren still one of my favourite mercs in the game, doesn't need a buff to nuke enemy team.
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PostSubject: Re: Best merc in Game   Best merc in Game EmptyDecember 3rd 2013, 4:35 am

love me my siren...use her all de time, except where i love to be using most...in raid. Sad
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PostSubject: Re: Best merc in Game   Best merc in Game EmptyDecember 3rd 2013, 4:38 am

I adamantly believe that no atk based merc can be the single greatest. They can be hard countered too easily. As of right now, only atk has this problem.

If a super Niobe team were to exist, it would be effective against wis and agi too, not just atk.

I understand that some atk based lethals are godlike, but this weakness doesn't exist for wis and agi. My point is that this counter is easily available.

I beat a Mac ragged team last event this way. If he hit back with agi or wis, it would have been impossible.

My vote is jackson because of the sheer versatility in a team.
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PostSubject: Re: Best merc in Game   Best merc in Game EmptyDecember 3rd 2013, 2:47 pm

Who is 'zckn' and why does he have a Jackson? Just ran up against him in a pvp match. He's level 53, no title yet. Team consists of 'Blue bot - F-9 - Jackson - Hanzo - Archangel'
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PostSubject: Re: Best merc in Game   Best merc in Game EmptyDecember 3rd 2013, 3:39 pm

Probably a new duke account
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PostSubject: Re: Best merc in Game   Best merc in Game EmptyDecember 3rd 2013, 3:41 pm

Is duke actually alive? haven't seen him on here for a while?
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PostSubject: Re: Best merc in Game   Best merc in Game EmptyDecember 3rd 2013, 3:50 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Best merc in Game   Best merc in Game EmptyDecember 3rd 2013, 4:02 pm

Arthainius wrote:
Probably a new duke account
Not venting on duke specifically, but it really really irks me when players do this for the free 170 AC and PS. They are literally robbing Dakota of the equivalent of $150 worth of resource sales.
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PostSubject: Re: Best merc in Game   Best merc in Game EmptyDecember 3rd 2013, 4:16 pm

must be me cos u know every single new account created is one of mine right
even though all my other accounts have the word kiwi in it but still must be me
also the fact that i havent played this game for like a month now
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PostSubject: Re: Best merc in Game   Best merc in Game EmptyDecember 3rd 2013, 4:25 pm

Hence the not targeting you specifically part, duke. Very Happy 

Also, good to see ya back from your hiatus!
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PostSubject: Re: Best merc in Game   Best merc in Game EmptyDecember 3rd 2013, 8:47 pm

I just figured you got smart enough to not associate names ...... nvm your just inactive
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PostSubject: Re: Best merc in Game   Best merc in Game EmptyDecember 6th 2013, 5:54 pm

I gotta say, Nox is one of the best mercs too, if not THE best. Dominance is just so crucial against certain top-tier teams. I just fought Moba-Man with his team of Artemis - Double Gun - Bionic Bull Thor V2 - Double Gun - Artemis and I was running Fista - Tideslayer - Jackson - Nox (moved up from back row) - Fista. We both got all our procs and Nox went first, he proced Mercurial Beating killing one of the Artemis Riders and then Dominance. It was a beautiful thing. The rest of my mercs then cleaned up his before any had a chance to move. Nox made that happen.
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PostSubject: Re: Best merc in Game   Best merc in Game EmptyDecember 6th 2013, 6:11 pm

Yep but on 3rd fights odds of dominance 2x are pretty low. Nox is a hit or miss ....if he procs her owns if he doesn't proc he's just another merc like every other one
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