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Thordain Common
Posts : 22 Join date : 2013-12-15
| Subject: How about that Lurker! January 13th 2014, 9:15 pm | |
| So there are many sold for 1-2 res. then an epic4 pops up in exchange with crazy stats and prices soar. Reaching 8 res each . This merc looks really good on paper. 18k wis, 14.7k agi. 150x4 mod. So I'm going to go out on a limb and say this could be the best wis based epic merc in the game. Thoughts? | |
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sphynx187 Epic
Posts : 573 Join date : 2013-03-07 Age : 43
| Subject: Re: How about that Lurker! January 13th 2014, 9:43 pm | |
| burnfrost has higher cumulative damage, but lower agi | |
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danthepirate Epic
Posts : 862 Join date : 2013-05-05 Location : Australia
| Subject: Re: How about that Lurker! January 13th 2014, 9:44 pm | |
| You are forgetting siren and burnfrost.
Siren is pretty unique in what she can do, but it would make a pretty interesting comparison with Burnfrost. Significantly better overall stats but Burnfrost will still do a lot more damage on proc and doesn't necessarily need to be buffed. | |
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Arthainius Admin
Posts : 1946 Join date : 2013-02-14 Age : 35 Location : Springfield, MO
| Subject: Re: How about that Lurker! January 13th 2014, 11:18 pm | |
| raid merc good mid tier pvp merc | |
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caya Rare
Posts : 272 Join date : 2013-09-10
| Subject: Re: How about that Lurker! January 15th 2014, 5:12 am | |
| Could it be the first merc who survives Siren's shot? Huge WIS and HP give a good chance. At least against non-perfect evolved Siren. | |
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legendslayer Admin
Posts : 1371 Join date : 2013-01-05
| Subject: Re: How about that Lurker! January 15th 2014, 8:49 am | |
| I dunno, maybe. Maybe not. I've had mordeo-buffed high-end pvp teams still die in a single shot to the all-powerful siren. | |
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caya Rare
Posts : 272 Join date : 2013-09-10
| Subject: Re: How about that Lurker! January 15th 2014, 9:04 am | |
| Mordeo does not buff WIS, does he? | |
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legendslayer Admin
Posts : 1371 Join date : 2013-01-05
| Subject: Re: How about that Lurker! January 15th 2014, 9:35 am | |
| No, but WIS damage skills are still significantly affected by DEF of the target. | |
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caya Rare
Posts : 272 Join date : 2013-09-10
| Subject: Re: How about that Lurker! January 15th 2014, 9:38 am | |
| And i always thought WIS was more important attribute for defense vs WIS based skills. Any1 knows the real math? ;-) | |
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JoDaHo74 Rare
Posts : 418 Join date : 2013-06-08 Age : 79 Location : Hellcat'sPanties & theROC(585)
| Subject: Re: How about that Lurker! January 15th 2014, 10:05 am | |
| Mercs double buffed by niobe/mordeo survive siren nuke | |
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mamoncrief Admin
Posts : 1818 Join date : 2013-02-01 Location : Los Angeles, CA
| Subject: Re: How about that Lurker! January 15th 2014, 12:19 pm | |
| Not from my POPE siren. I think I have only seen one merc live through that, and it was a hellcat/mordeo daisy chained canis. and even then it was a sliver, a tiny tiny sliver. | |
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Arthainius Admin
Posts : 1946 Join date : 2013-02-14 Age : 35 Location : Springfield, MO
| Subject: Re: How about that Lurker! January 15th 2014, 5:58 pm | |
| That's exact team I use to run was canis-mord-hc-mord-canis and I survived sirens proc many times. Would take about 70% of their health though | |
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Thordain Common
Posts : 22 Join date : 2013-12-15
| Subject: Re: How about that Lurker! January 15th 2014, 10:07 pm | |
| It may not matter though, if the Lurker procs. Then there's a good chance the siren will be dead before she can attack. The high agi of this merc is a thing of beauty | |
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danthepirate Epic
Posts : 862 Join date : 2013-05-05 Location : Australia
| Subject: Re: How about that Lurker! January 15th 2014, 11:18 pm | |
| I haven't seen too many sirens on the first row for PVP squads lately. I mostly see them as a great second row surprise where speed doesn't matter anyway. | |
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mamoncrief Admin
Posts : 1818 Join date : 2013-02-01 Location : Los Angeles, CA
| Subject: Re: How about that Lurker! January 16th 2014, 3:32 am | |
| Thats my strategy haha. 3 back row sirens kickin butt. | |
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Arthainius Admin
Posts : 1946 Join date : 2013-02-14 Age : 35 Location : Springfield, MO
| Subject: Re: How about that Lurker! January 16th 2014, 3:59 am | |
| i would think your matchups 24-30 are pretty tough with 3 back row sirens | |
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mamoncrief Admin
Posts : 1818 Join date : 2013-02-01 Location : Los Angeles, CA
| Subject: Re: How about that Lurker! January 16th 2014, 1:05 pm | |
| Yeah, they get pretty insane, but they more than make up for it. Nothing beats a siren. Won my first pvp lethal by scraping every res I had together and pouring it into making a few of these babies from scratch after the event. Next pvp I ran 2 of them (before back row fights) and won myself a shiny new Vibriss haha. | |
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heptathlete Epic
Posts : 1503 Join date : 2013-07-12 Location : TX no longer ... now FL (7psoGP)
| Subject: Re: How about that Lurker! January 19th 2014, 4:32 pm | |
| So you guys are saying that the lurker is better than lucion too?
Also, with siren hiding in the back row, it doesn't matter how fast the lurker is, siren still rules the roost. | |
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Thordain Common
Posts : 22 Join date : 2013-12-15
| Subject: Re: How about that Lurker! January 19th 2014, 7:15 pm | |
| Yea, I think Lurker IS better than lucion. Faster makes it better imo. Lurker will go first so if it procs then fight is over. Same with siren really. Not talking about reserves.talking about front row. | |
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legendslayer Admin
Posts : 1371 Join date : 2013-01-05
| Subject: Re: How about that Lurker! January 22nd 2014, 8:31 pm | |
| Lurkers back down to 4-5 res each now. What? Did I miss something? Are they bugged? | |
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caya Rare
Posts : 272 Join date : 2013-09-10
| Subject: Re: How about that Lurker! January 23rd 2014, 5:24 am | |
| He works just fine. Have one in the raid squad and find his ability really useful. His hits are approx as they should be so no bugs like Lilith, Bullestinger etc... | |
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hatchetrizer Rare
Posts : 411 Join date : 2013-06-24
| Subject: Re: How about that Lurker! January 23rd 2014, 12:27 pm | |
| Lurkers dropped during event only bc ppl needed more cans. Got desperate I suppose | |
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caya Rare
Posts : 272 Join date : 2013-09-10
| Subject: Re: How about that Lurker! January 31st 2014, 4:23 am | |
| Lurker is one of the best merc for tower. Combination of high stats (no need for buffers) with stun ability and he is faster then anything he meets there. | |
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danthepirate Epic
Posts : 862 Join date : 2013-05-05 Location : Australia
| Subject: Re: How about that Lurker! January 31st 2014, 5:12 am | |
| Pretty sure you don't need much speed for lvl 10. 11671 AGI is enough from my experience. | |
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Warcrier Uncommon
Posts : 37 Join date : 2013-12-01
| Subject: Re: How about that Lurker! January 31st 2014, 10:11 am | |
| got to lurkers, works great, with the stun you get an extra turn, witch can save you some erk`s ; )
But whats the stats for a POPE Siren? | |
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bspervy Rare
Posts : 132 Join date : 2013-10-08 Age : 47 Location : Velbert
| Subject: Re: How about that Lurker! January 31st 2014, 11:30 am | |
| Siren is on the Wiki: http://fatalfrontier.wikia.com/wiki/Siren_MaidenStats are usually 8 x r1 there so roughly add 666 for 400 crystals. But talking about stats ... unfortunately didn't get to build a Sentinal myself. Does someone know his wis with 400 crystals? | |
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sphynx187 Epic
Posts : 573 Join date : 2013-03-07 Age : 43
| Subject: Re: How about that Lurker! January 31st 2014, 11:35 am | |
| It was 17999 for a 8/200, so roughly 18015 for a POPE. | |
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d1fferent Rare
Posts : 339 Join date : 2013-08-11 Location : United Kingdom scotland/ south-east england
| Subject: Re: How about that Lurker! February 3rd 2014, 6:33 pm | |
| Defo loving the lurker for tower, and damn the freeze is handy on the floor boss! | |
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