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PostSubject: Greetings   Greetings EmptySeptember 11th 2013, 5:50 am

Hello every1,
im new here but not so new to the game. I quite like it and wasted unhealthy plenty of time playing it, but am among those who dont like to pay to win. However, it gets a little bit fustrating when newer players can never reach good event record unless they really dig deep into the wallet.
Still I like how i started with my first elites, which got slowly replaced by well trained and better ones. Top100 in event still missed me, but i am getting closer and closer ;-).
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PostSubject: Re: Greetings   Greetings EmptySeptember 11th 2013, 7:00 am

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PostSubject: Re: Greetings   Greetings EmptySeptember 11th 2013, 7:16 am

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PostSubject: Re: Greetings   Greetings EmptySeptember 11th 2013, 7:43 am

Welcome to the thunderdome. Also most the top guys here are free players and always have been. I personally have like 15 bucks invested. Is it harder to build your team this way? Yes. Makes it feel a lot more worth it when you do eventually build a top team knowing you didn't spend what others did to make the same thing.
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PostSubject: Re: Greetings   Greetings EmptySeptember 11th 2013, 8:36 am

welcome to the best forum in the biz!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Greetings   Greetings EmptySeptember 11th 2013, 10:30 am

Arthainius wrote:
Welcome to the thunderdome. Also most the top guys here are free players and always have been. I personally have like 15 bucks invested. Is it harder to build your team this way? Yes. Makes it feel a lot more worth it when you do eventually build a top team knowing you didn't spend what others did to make the same thing.
Exactly. But with time, its gonna be harder and harder to achieve that. For example the trading around Lilith surprised me a lot, and for me poor newb its impossible to obtain the 4th Lilith.
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PostSubject: Re: Greetings   Greetings EmptySeptember 11th 2013, 12:51 pm

Then throw in the towel haha. If you had 3 lilliths, you could have made 40-50 cans off those. Farm yourself up to 500 or so mags, take those cans, and get yourself a lethal in raid or pvp (if you have the team)

People who blew cans to put together a 140 can 8n1 lillith are crazy man haha.
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PostSubject: Re: Greetings   Greetings EmptySeptember 11th 2013, 8:31 pm

Welcome to the Forum! Swing by one of the TFB thread if you're in need of some event allies!
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PostSubject: Re: Greetings   Greetings EmptySeptember 12th 2013, 4:50 am

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Then throw in the towel haha. If you had 3 lilliths, you could have made 40-50 cans off those. Farm yourself up to 500 or so mags, take those cans, and get yourself a lethal in raid or pvp (if you have the team)

People who blew cans to put together a 140 can 8n1 lillith are crazy man haha.
Too late for me. If i predicted this when event ended, i would try to exploit it and sell those three Liliths. Now im stucked with evolved t3 Lilith Sad. Well, she is still better than most of my other mercs.

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Welcome to the Forum! Swing by one of the TFB thread if you're in need of some event allies!
Thanks, i surely will.
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PostSubject: Re: Greetings   Greetings EmptySeptember 12th 2013, 5:47 am

Welcome.

That happened to me with incinerate. I made a 3 in 1 and then paid 20 ac to get another one to make a 4 in 1. I still have him and he still has a spot in my pvp team.
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PostSubject: Re: Greetings   Greetings EmptySeptember 12th 2013, 8:39 am

P.S. - 4n1 mercs are plain garbage. It doesn't matter if it's still way better than your current mercs, because the stats are way low and if you try to sell it, it will go for a 1/3rd or 1/4th of normal asking price. People only want to buy PE (8n1) or better, unless you find a situation where the merc is just way too good, like frozen golem or bots, but I have a feeling that will never happen again in this game.

Like mamon said, you were better off selling the R1 mercs and making tons of res, but too late now Crying or Very sad
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PostSubject: Re: Greetings   Greetings EmptySeptember 12th 2013, 9:11 am

What's done is done.

The way I see it is there are 3 options.

1. Keeps it as a 3 in 1 - pretty useless.
2. Sells the 3 in 1. Someone might buy it for probably not a lot as people won't want to create a non 8 in 1 evo.
3. Buys another R1. I saw one for 10 ps not long ago so that isn't too bad.

If he makes a 4 in 1 it will still be useful as Lilith has some pretty nice stats. He can crystal the R1 before he evos it to help out as well. The 3 in 1 is pretty worthless, so the question is whether or not there is a better merc out there than a 4 in 1 Lilith for 10 ps...
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PostSubject: Re: Greetings   Greetings EmptySeptember 12th 2013, 9:33 am

No there's not.... finish the Lilith for 10-15 Res and you still have a merc with 11k+ agi that can ohko 4 non buffed nercs.
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PostSubject: Re: Greetings   Greetings EmptySeptember 12th 2013, 9:35 am

From now on though try to only build 8*1 mercs as their stats will give you the advantage over non PE and when your done with it you will get 3-4x more Res for it off the X
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PostSubject: Re: Greetings   Greetings EmptySeptember 12th 2013, 9:44 am

Thank you for all those comments. I have used some crystals on the t3 already and will either wait for the 4th t1 to make it complete or (if prices of Lilith drops enough) get three more T1 to get 6n1. Anyway, Lilith, 2 birds and 2 big rigs 2 are my current most potent combo for damage (looking forward to next raidboss hunt).
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PostSubject: Re: Greetings   Greetings EmptySeptember 12th 2013, 10:43 am

you're on your way to a decent raid squad. Try to get some PE Keymasters...I'm sure aces can just give you some, he has like 800 of them Wink

They are the cheapest, best raid mercs you can own that will own the raid bosses. Plus, if you can get a blue bot, you'll own even more!

good luck!
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PostSubject: Re: Greetings   Greetings EmptySeptember 12th 2013, 12:19 pm

You guys need to remember what it's like to be a newbie. I have an Incinerate v2 that is a 4n1. I was a fairly new player during that event and was only able to get 3 copies of blaze. It took months before I was able to find another one. Thus I can totally understand caya and I would recommend making a 4n1 Lilith. The longer you play, the more you have the mercs/squad to do better in events and then you can start making 8n1's. Welcome and good luck caya.
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PostSubject: Re: Greetings   Greetings EmptySeptember 12th 2013, 12:41 pm

^ what he said.

I made 4/1 of Golem, Mordeo, Gormandizer, and Siren because I wasn't so much a newbie but I mostly because I hadn't found this forum yet. I could've made 8/1 golem and mordeo, but sold my "extras" for parts because I couldn't justify the "tiny" increase in stats. Dumb...
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PostSubject: Re: Greetings   Greetings EmptySeptember 12th 2013, 12:43 pm

I did make a 6/1 of the gaigelwanker...so I've got that going for me
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PostSubject: Re: Greetings   Greetings EmptySeptember 12th 2013, 1:18 pm

I remember very well what it's like to be a newbie. I wish someone had told me to sell off my event rares as r1's rather than spend every resource I had to try and build one every single event.

I ended up with a lot of mediocre epics, when if I had sold them I could have end up with a lot of truly awesome lethals.

That said, if you are interested in selling that 3n1, I might actually buy it and use it as the back end of a lillith evo for myself rather than buy a full 8n1 at these outrageous prices. Let me know.
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PostSubject: Re: Greetings   Greetings EmptySeptember 12th 2013, 3:36 pm

mamoncrief wrote:
I remember very well what it's like to be a newbie. I wish someone had told me to sell off my event rares as r1's rather than spend every resource I had to try and build one every single event.

I ended up with a lot of mediocre epics, when if I had sold them I could have end up with a lot of truly awesome lethals.

That said, if you are interested in selling that 3n1, I might actually buy it and use it as the back end of a lillith evo for myself rather than buy a full 8n1 at these outrageous prices. Let me know.
Thanks for the offer but not now. As i said, Lilith is still one of my best mercs (with those two rigs probably the best one) even when its only t3 (and 11k agi). Not even 4n1 vultures with 12k agi give better damage. So ill keep it for now and wait for Lilith to drop in price a bit more. It hopefully will.
As for newbie behaviour... it was not long time ago when i did not bother to evolve mercs with 10% bonus and was just fine with 5%. Then i started to be a bit more patient with leveling mercs for optimal evolution but never went beyond 4n1 (cannonback, raider, primarch). Now i see that i 4n1 is still not enough and ill need to focus in 8n1... geez. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Greetings   Greetings EmptySeptember 12th 2013, 5:19 pm

Haha, yea. You'll learn a lot here.
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