PVE VS PVP

SO BARE PROPOSES A TOPIC OF DISCUSSION

WHICH LEADER IS THE BEST FOR PVE AND WHICH FOR PVP?

WHICH RARE EVOLVING INTO EPIC IS THE BEST FOR PVP AND WHICH IS THE BEST FOR PVE?

WHAT STATISTICS EXIST TO DEMONSTRATE INDIVIDUAL SUPERIORITY?

IS THE 6 STRIKE ATTACK BASED ABILITY SQUADIES BETTER THAN WISDOM BASED AND WHY?

WILL BARES TOPIC GET DELETED BECAUSE ITS IN ALL CAPS?

IS AGILITY THE ONLY WAY TO GO IN PVP? FASTER HITS WIN IS THE ANSWER?

HOW DOES AGILITY DAMAGE FARE IN PVE?

ARE BLOCKERS WASTES IN PVP? ARE GREAPERS FAIL? WOULD A 2 GREAPER 2 BIG HEAD TEAM WITH SOME FORM OF ATTACK SQUADY IN THE MIDDLE BE PLAUSIBLE OR FAIL?

ARE BLOCKERS WASTES IN PVE? DOES THE DAMAGE REDUCTION ON YOUR HITTERS REALLY MATTER IN THE LONG RUN MENTALITY OF IF THEY ARE DEAD BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE HAPPENS?

ARE THE ONE FOR ALL SQUADIES WORTH THE EFFORT TO BUILD OR ARE 6 HITTERS BETTER?

DISCUSSION COMMENCE

for pvp and tower the best leader is mainly the agility one (dutch) yet most people dont use leaders because of the lack of stats

For raid i pref the full auto guy ( he does massive dmg )

Meta mutant / blood widow / horde chieftant ( cuz of its agility) and the new ice bot are the best for pvp and tower

Meta and blood , ice bot ( other good multi hitter epics) are great for raid.


6 strike is better for raid for sure cuz the wis just hit once , for pvp and tower its even imo

I hope not i typed this in my phone.....

Agility gives a hugh headstart fot pvp for sure

Agility skills are ok for pvp yet only 6 hits for raid

They fail.

They fail.

Only for raid

Forgot 1 thing but we

AGI is king in pvp so Widow, Samurai, Santa, and Big Rig are pretty dominant. Both ATK and WIS teams are viable as well but I have always run AGI because I like to hit first.

Blockers are an absolute waste unless you have an ATK buffed Reaver or Horde Greaper capable of retaliation. Defensive tactics do not work well

The 6 hit ATK fams are incredibly versatile, they are effective in pvp, against mobs, and against bosses. WIS fams good in pvp and vs mobs but they suck vs bosses

Right now the best leader for Raid is Cmdr Brodey and the best for pvp are probably Dutch or Kennedy Elliot

BARE KEEPS GETTING TOLD TO GO META MUTANTS

BARE WONDERS IS THIS THE STARTING PLATFORM FOR EVERYONE?

BUILD METAS AND PRIMARCHS?

Metas have good stats across the board and a great skill. They generally strike before anything besides BWQs, AGI buffed teams, or Turret Engineers who give up 1-2k attack and defense for 100 more AGI than the meta. They're also relatively common, given that they drop from any cell, including raid event cells where you'll find them in a relatively small pool of rares (event rare, Mini-skrillz, fug bug jowl and metas is all I remember?).

IF THEY ARE SO COMMON THAN WHY SHOULD BARE TRADE BOTS FOR THEM?

CONSIDERING BARE ALREADY HAS DRAWN 1 1* META THAT BARE TRADED FOR 2 HORDE BLOCKERS ON DAY 1 AND HAS A CELL DRAWN V2 META NOW

DO HORDE TINKERERS HAVE VIABILITY ON BOTH ASPECTS?

Trade the bot you have allows you to build your meta wich is common unlike bot wich is an event reward.

The question is : Are you able to make a PE ice bot?

If the answer is yes then keep them and build meta later, if the answer is no just go for meta wich still is an awesome familiar and a good start for a new player.

So is it really that much better to use 8 bots to make a people then it is to make 2 ice golems out of 4 bots ?each

redcarpetfish wrote:

So is it really that much better to use 8 bots to make a people then it is to make 2 ice golems out of 4 bots ?each

Definitly

Is it really that much better? Because I have 8 bot and I have never before gotten a PE before. Usually in events I rank around 300. So I had thought that having 2 ice golems was better than 1, especially is the difference in stats between a <> an a PE is only 1 or 2k difference.

Would you rather have 1 bot that goes BEFORE your opponent, procs Stopping Power and wipes out half your opposition, or would you rather have 2 bots that go AFTER your oppoent's bot and are already dead by the time they can move?

For mid-range players who don't have a full team of amazing cahracters, two bots of low quality is probably better. But once you start playing competatively, those extra stats are huge. Mediocre and outdated characters get traded away in order to build PE and OPE versions that give you an edge in PvP.

redcarpetfish wrote:

Is it really that much better? Because I have 8 bot and I have never before gotten a PE before. Usually in events I rank around 300. So I had thought that having 2 ice golems was better than 1, especially is the difference in stats between a <<ghetto evolution>> an a PE is only 1 or 2k difference.

Think of it the other way.

You only have 5 spot for your pvp team. If u want to max the the total stats of the team, u want 5 times pe squadmate. building 2 instead will benefit u short term, but there are way cheaper option to help u short term.

I started playing ff when there was 3 days left in the last tower event. Therfore, I only had more or less 5 days to prepare for the pvp. I got 80ish and had 5* title. I did not acheive that by wasting valuables cards. I just picked the right cheap cards and I am still building on that.

Well when you say it as "going before your opponent--- playing competitively" makes me kind of think lol...

The closest I've gotten to a PE was 7 pain deer...

After hearing all this I kind of feel dumb cause I've had enough to make a few highly sought after event epics

You should definitely aim for 8 on any fam if you can get them.