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RE: Bionic Empty
PostSubject: RE: Bionic   RE: Bionic EmptyJuly 29th 2013, 7:09 pm

Not sure if I'm gonna be looking to shop this but I wanted to see how it compares to others made.

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PostSubject: Re: RE: Bionic   RE: Bionic EmptyJuly 29th 2013, 7:29 pm

So going off the Wiki, that would be 10 stats over a standard 8/150c??? Not sure if the wiki is wrong or you have made a mistake in using your crystals and evolution.

I am in the process of making a 8/200c which would have stats 40 higher across the board.

To me it seems like a solid Tier 2 merc which I will be keeping.
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PostSubject: Re: RE: Bionic   RE: Bionic EmptyJuly 29th 2013, 7:32 pm

Yeah messed around with crystals. I onle know for sure that i used 150+

Could only be 10 extra lol
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PostSubject: Re: RE: Bionic   RE: Bionic EmptyJuly 29th 2013, 7:49 pm

I have a problem where the way I have been trying to do my 8/200 means I am losing 5 stats somewhere which is frustrating.
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PostSubject: Re: RE: Bionic   RE: Bionic EmptyJuly 29th 2013, 7:54 pm

I only put crystals on seeds until the very end to finish the fully evolved one.
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PostSubject: Re: RE: Bionic   RE: Bionic EmptyJuly 29th 2013, 7:57 pm

Plus it was something to do in between time and waiting to be ready for tower
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PostSubject: Re: RE: Bionic   RE: Bionic EmptyJuly 29th 2013, 8:03 pm

Yeah that's what I do. I pretty much lvl and evolve them so I am left with a lvl1 R1 and lvl70 R1, R2, lvl99 E1, put 50 crystals on each and then evolve them into the E4 then lvl the E4 to 99.

The only thing I can think of is that I need to crystal them all at the start or something.
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PostSubject: Re: RE: Bionic   RE: Bionic EmptyJuly 29th 2013, 8:05 pm

Looks awesome Aces. Now I know to consider the blows these guys will be leveling during the next PVP when evaluating possible opponents.
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PostSubject: Re: RE: Bionic   RE: Bionic EmptyJuly 29th 2013, 8:21 pm

Well thats untill they put a change on the skill but he's still worth a roster spot. Besides my canis i dont think i have anything with a stat that high in they're skill that matters.
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PostSubject: Re: RE: Bionic   RE: Bionic EmptyJuly 29th 2013, 8:33 pm

I honestly think weaken will only come into play on raid bosses. I expect that the bionic will take down most things one hit that are un-buffed. If it requires 2 hits to kill then I don't think the weaken will really make a difference as it will have been overkilled by a fair margin anyways.
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PostSubject: Re: RE: Bionic   RE: Bionic EmptyJuly 29th 2013, 9:06 pm

^^ agreed
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PostSubject: Re: RE: Bionic   RE: Bionic EmptyJuly 29th 2013, 11:08 pm

I'm thinking if someone ran a bionic with some tele's that could deal some serious damage. Maybe even add in a hellcat in the middle?

I'd be curious of the damage output.
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PostSubject: Re: RE: Bionic   RE: Bionic EmptyJuly 29th 2013, 11:30 pm

I tried that and yes it does massive damage next to a hellcat
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PostSubject: Re: RE: Bionic   RE: Bionic EmptyJuly 29th 2013, 11:37 pm

Nice well i have a decent one if anyone is running one for raid
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PostSubject: Re: RE: Bionic   RE: Bionic EmptyJuly 29th 2013, 11:42 pm

I have 8 R1 bionics for sale. I'm gonna post a thread in a few
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PostSubject: Re: RE: Bionic   RE: Bionic EmptyJuly 29th 2013, 11:43 pm

I think it would be close between a burnfrost and a bionic. It burnfrost has better base stats and does 900% attack.

The bionic does 600% attack normally. With the current form of weaken it seems to pretty much triple the next shot damage (from my unscientific observations). So when weaken does go off, if you make the assumption that it was on the first or second hit for easy calculation, it will end up doing around 1000% attack. It could in effect do more if you put it next to your leader for example but the proc rate on the weaken is an unkown.

So think burnfrost for consistency and the bionic for the occasional big numbers. I think in the end the bionic might have the slight edge.

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PostSubject: Re: RE: Bionic   RE: Bionic EmptyJuly 30th 2013, 12:00 am

Bionic better than Burnfrost? Are u out of your mind. Bionic will only help in Tower and a little in Raid. The weaken is doing good in the event because of the savage. In which Burn is better at everything. Also Burns hits will be killer, in which Bionic will need someone to take care of the reminder of the enemies HP.
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PostSubject: Re: RE: Bionic   RE: Bionic EmptyJuly 30th 2013, 12:10 am

Read the thread. We are talking about raid. In tower and PVP Burnfrost is way better.
 
But do the maths. No one knows what the proc rate of weaken is, but if weaken goes off on Bionics 1st or 2nd hit you have done 1000% damage which might turn out to be higher then burnfrost if un buffed but would be a fair bit higher if buffed. If weaken goes off on the 3rd hit and you have your leader next, it will currently triple your leader's damage. Think about if your leader is brody and that if he procs after a weaken he will do triple the damage of his attack. You still think I am out of my mind?
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PostSubject: Re: RE: Bionic   RE: Bionic EmptyJuly 30th 2013, 8:50 am

possibly true dan, but one of the devs got on the forum and said the weaken skill with bionic is OP and will be "adjusted" in a week or two. I'm paraphrasing, but point being, they may be good now, but soon they'll only be average Sad

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PostSubject: Re: RE: Bionic   RE: Bionic EmptyJuly 30th 2013, 8:54 am

Which is why i basically begged him to leave it be. Kind of sucks the res people have paid for them but eh its not really a major deal. I'm sure being around a tele or hellcat could still make him useful.

Either way i will hold onto cause I like him and he could be useful to myself or someone else if they wanted to borrow to test with stuff
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PostSubject: Re: RE: Bionic   RE: Bionic EmptyJuly 30th 2013, 9:27 am

Yes I know. It was more of a hypothetical what if because it would have been next raid that people would have tried stuff with them but by then it will be too late.
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PostSubject: Re: RE: Bionic   RE: Bionic EmptyJuly 30th 2013, 10:10 am

Tele is very underestimated, for his power. All of his stats are above average, he could proly survive most KOs that down other mercs. As for his ability, True, it is not very good in PvP, but it is a beast raider, and a good tower merc. A good tier 2 merc that keeps getting frowned upon. I will proly grab one if I find it low on AH, even if I dont need it, just to have one lying around.
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PostSubject: Re: RE: Bionic   RE: Bionic EmptyJuly 30th 2013, 10:51 am

I have noticed, on all-out, that my 3* lvl 95 bionics will hit for over 1.4 mil if the weaken hits on 1st or 2nd hit of three. But that happens maybe once every 3-4 battles.

It is unfortunate that the devs want to take his skill down a peg or two. Even with the skill as it is, he isn't the cat's pajamas.
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PostSubject: Re: RE: Bionic   RE: Bionic EmptyJuly 30th 2013, 10:52 am

Next raid I'm going to throw a tigrey between a PE Bionic and a PE green Vulture and see what happens.
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PostSubject: Re: RE: Bionic   RE: Bionic EmptyJuly 30th 2013, 11:40 am

^^ not a bad idea. He could make a decent team with a tig and a siren as well

Decent pvp wins with bionic•blue•tig•blue•siren
Or swap a blue with a canis. It's not a L team but it's solid.
I was getting good daily pvp wins just messing around.
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